Talk:USS Johnston (DD-557)

DANFS

I copied the contents of this page from DANFS. While other ship's histories I've copied from DANFS have been for the most part NPOV and mostly encyclopedic, this one is too conversational, loaded with POV-ish terms and adjectives. At the moment, I'm more interested in bringing DANFS data over for ships without entries in Wikipedia than editing these for NPOV. Please fix this page! =) Scott B 00:14, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• See Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/DANFS conversions for general advice. Of particular concern in this case is the claim that "Kumano later sank". This is true, strictly speaking, but the placement in the text would have you believe that she sank as a result of Johnston's torpedo attack. In fact she survived the battle of Samar, returned to Santa Cruz, and was sunk there in November by air attack [1]. Gdr 09:40, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

• I've cleaned up some of the POV verbiage and other general editing. Someone needs to provide citations for the numerous quotes in the article or they should be removed. Dabarkey 08:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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Dead in the water vs. half speed

The section below makes no sense the way it is presented. Presuming that the events are shown in chronological order, it's not possible that the ship was dead in the water then takes damage cutting her speed in half. That is unless you consider half of zero being zero (mathematically correct). Were repairs made that aren't mentioned? Does anyone have a good source to correct this?

"the damaged remaining engine quit, leaving her dead in the water.[citation needed]

Some time into the battle, a Japanese battleship, Kongō, fired two rounds from her main cannons. One round punched through the thin side armor of Johnston and cut a hole through the engine room. Her speed was cut in half." Linktex (talk) 22:48, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Recommend addition of new photos of the wreck of the Johnston

Please find below pictures of the wreck of the USS Johnston recently submitted to Wikipedia Commons. The photos were taken by me, the pilot of the submersible, with my Samsung Galaxy phone through one of the three acrylic viewports in the submersible DSV Limiting Factor on March 31, 2021. They are free to use. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Starboard_bow_of_the_wreck_of_the_USS_Johnston_DD-557.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gun_turret_No._51_on_the_bow_of_the_wreck_of_the_USS_Johnston_DD-557.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bridge_and_Mk_37_Gun_Fire_Control_System_(top)_of_wreck_of_the_USS_Johnston_DD-557.jpg Best regards, Vlvescovo (talk) 23:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Victor, I would like to thank you for donating the pictures. I inserted them into the article as a gallery.Yeti-Hunter (talk) 13:25, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing, Victor! Those are amazing.  DGrundler  talk  15:40, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 18:02, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

• "was made up by ten 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors guns" - the 40mm Bofors article is is set index article now (I think there's actually a discussion about this on WT:MILHIST about that right now). Recommend linking directly to the exact gun article if the intended target can be determined
  •  Done –♠Vami_IV†♠ 08:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
• The SC air search radar seems to be only mentioned in the infobox?
  •  Doing... I completely overlooked this; recapturing the old OpMajesTitan magic is hard. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 08:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
• It's never directly stated in the article body that the ship was named after Lt. Johnston
  •  Added This too. Added now. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 08:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
• " escort transport ships to the Ellice Islands with Haraden, Long, and Stansbury." - indicate the type of the other three ships
  •  Done –♠Vami_IV†♠ 08:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
• "as all stowed 5 in munitions within the atoll" - I'm not quite able to entirely figure out what this means. I'm assuming that Admiral Joy wouldn't let Johnston collect munitions, but I'm getting stuck on the "5 in" part. Is it the word "in", or is it suggesting 5 inch shells, in which case the convert template could be used to make it more obvious
  •  Done –♠Vami_IV†♠ 08:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
• "and was assigned to escort Manila Bay with Hoel" - indicate that Manila Bay was a carrier
  •  Done
• "Evans moved his command unto the fantail" - I don't think unto is the word you want here
  • Changed to "to the fantail". –♠Vami_IV†♠ 08:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
• "Johnston was sunk with 187 losses from her crew of 273" in the lead, but the body says "Of her complement of 327 men, 186 men and officers including Evans died" which seems to include Evans in the 186
  •  Fixed Oops.
• Sources and images look fine

Hog Farm _Talk 05:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Why Italicized?

"...Johnston, two other Fletcher-class destroyers..."

Is there some rule that requires this? It's visually disruptive, and interferes with readability.72.181.112.54 (talk) 13:35, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Yes - please read WP:NC-SHIPS. For you personally, sure, but it does not for me at all. That is a personal preference.Llammakey (talk) 13:50, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for straightening me out.72.181.112.54 (talk) 19:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

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USS Johnston was a Fletcher-class destroyer built for the United States Navy during World War II. She was named after Lieutenant John V. Johnston, a navy officer during the American Civil War. The ship was laid down in May 1942 and was launched in March 1943, entering active duty later that year as part of the US Pacific Fleet. Johnston provided naval gunfire support for American ground forces during the Gilbert and Marshall Islands campaign in 1944 and again, after three months of patrol and escort duty in the Solomon Islands, during the recapture of Guam in July. Thereafter, Johnston was tasked with escorting escort carriers during the Mariana and Palau Islands campaign and the liberation of the Philippines. On 25 October 1944, Johnston and various other ships were engaged by a large Imperial Japanese Navy flotilla, in what became known as the Battle off Samar. After engaging several Japanese capital ships and a destroyer squadron, Johnston was sunk with 187 dead. Johnston's wreck was discovered in 2019, and at a depth of more than 20,000 feet (6,100 m) below the surface, is one of the deepest shipwrecks ever surveyed. This photograph shows Johnston in Seattle in October 1943.

Photograph credit: unidentified US Navy photographer; restored by Adam Cuerden and Cobatfor

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