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Modification of structure and content

Hi editors, we are a group of postgraduate students working on a project to improve Wikipedia quality. We have noticed several areas that we can improve on this page and we are making the following changes:

1) Structure of the article, building more sections

2) Mineral Infobox of serpentine subgroup

3) Major modification in the section of 'Properties and structure' and 'Occurrence'

4) New Gallery section displaying serpentine minerals and jewelery

5) Minor modification in other sections

6) References and External link changes

Serpentine subgroup (this page): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kierabiner/sandbox_SERPENTINITE

In addition, we are modifying the page of 'Serpetinite' and 'Serpetinization' at the same time. Please notice that 'Serpentine subgroup' (this page) is about the mineral subgroup; 'Serpentinite' is about the rock;and 'Serpetinization' is about the process of mineral transforming to serpentine. We are trying to make a linkage among these pages as they are very closely related but describing different things. You're welcome to check out the other 2 sandboxes.

Serpentinite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kierabiner/sandbox_SERPENTINITE Serpentinization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kierabiner/sandbox_SERPENTINIZATION — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.157.236.237 (talk) 19:24, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Satelite

Changed this slightly on the basis of the following. "# Satelite - name given, especially in the marketplace, to fibrous serpentine that exhibits chatoyancy -- e.g., the California cat's-eye from the vicinity of Visalia, Tulare County, California." http://www.cst.cmich.edu/users/dietr1rv/serpentine.htm

++ Name Derivation ++ Dana, in his "Manual of Mineralogy" described the name as being related to the property of serpentine to twist and curl (like a snake) when heated on the charcoal block - a common though outmoded classification tool.

Connemara marble, Irish green marble, Verd antique

I have noticed a few problems which are too big for me to figure out right now:

This Serpentine group article states: "The lapis atracius of the Romans, now known as verde antique, or verde antico, is a serpentinite breccia popular as a decorative facing stone. In classical times it was mined at Casambala, Thessaly, Greece. Serpentinite marbles are also widely used: Green Connemara marble (or Irish green marble) from Connemara, Ireland (and many other sources), and red Rosso di Levanto marble from Italy."
The Verd antique article states that Verd antique: "is sometimes classed, erroneously, as a variety of marble ("serpentine marble", "Connemara marble", "Moriah stone", etc)."
The searchphrase "Connemara marble" redirects to Verd antique.

A to-do list for me or whoever gets to it first:

Irish green marble may or may not be related to Connemara marble, this article needs to have source cited, or to be fixed if it is in error.
The searchphrase "Connemara marble" should definitely not be leading to an article which claims it is unrelated to Connemara marble, especially when there is a page (this one) which claims Connemara marble is a legitimate thing.
If it is an error to call the serpentine stuff "marble" then this Serpentine group article should make note of it. If it is NOT an error to call it marble, then we should check with the Verd antique contributors and see about changing it there.

Since these two articles are so related, it makes sense to try to fix discrepancies. Thanks if anyone can beat me to it! Fallendarling (talk) 03:35, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

update: It was late last night when I wrote the above. When I got back and re-read it, I realized it sounds like I'm saying this to-do list is the best way to go. I was really just wishing to open this up for discussion and to leave a "trail marker" behind so that people could see my thoughts in advance (it may be awhile before I can get back to this page). Sorry if I sounded totally arrogant or pushy, maybe I am, but it was not intended. Thanks. Fallendarling (talk) 13:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

@Fallendarling: job done! Licks-rocks (talk) 16:04, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Antigorite redirect

Is there a way to set the redirect for antigorite to go to the section on this page called antigorite, instead of to the top? Prometheus720 (talk) 21:31, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Commons category

@GeoWriter: Thanks for the revert, it should be fixed now. To confirm, the Commons category link in Category:Serpentine group is wrong? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:11, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It would be more consistent if the Wikipedia category Category:Serpentine group were to be renamed to Category:Serpentine subgroup. Having said that, some mineralogists seem to be struggling to agree if serpentine is a subgroup or group or supergroup. GeoWriter (talk) 15:25, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]