Talk:Wubi method

Use Of First Person

Should the following section not be in first person: 一：The code for this character is 'GGLL'. As before, you type the key for the character first, which is 'G', then the first stroke of that character, which is also a 'G'. But I can unfortunately not explain why you need the two 'L's, only note that the '一' is also the shortcut character for 'G' (making it one stroke only in practice).?

76.178.224.166 (talk) 22:18, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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How do i install Wubi method on my windows xp computer? Thanks, --Abdull 16:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC) There is a big difference between "wubi method" and "five stroke method." Thus articles should not be merged. The confusion has to do with similar names. The input method described in "wubi method" is wu3bi3zi4xing2, literally five pen character shape, and it involves letter keys on the keyboard divided into five regions as stated in the article. The "five stroke method" refers to wu3bi3hua4 which literally means five penstrokes. This method is different in that it involves five number keys only and the character is input only according to the five basic types of brush strokes in Chinese characters. -- Bai Shihan

Agreed. Whoever proposed the merge clearly has no idea what either method entails, and in fact probably hasn't even read the articles in question yet. -Jason

was this page copied?

from reference dot com? http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Wubi_method -Samuel

• No, reference.com gets its information from Wikipedia.--Aleron235 18:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Userbox

五This user uses Wubi as a primary Chinese input method.

Yao Ziyuan 07:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

vagueintro?

Could please explain more? How do you considered it as vague? Yao Ziyuan 08:39, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

There is more than one Wubi, needs disambiguation.

see: http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html which is designed to allow installation of Ubuntu Linux inside of a Windows Partition —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.135.82.145 (talk) 23:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

see wubi (Ubuntu) --87.182.70.159 19:01, 28 August 2007 (UTC) Dieter

Mnemonic poem

There's a reference to a mnemonic poem to remember the sequence here, that's truncated "due to the copyright". A mnemonic poem won't be under copyright, could someone please add the full poem? — OwenBlacker (Talk) 21:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Comparison with other input Methods ...

Such as Cangjie? 72.228.150.44 (talk) 23:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

That is a good question. I have used both methods to some extent, but considering the current tendencies of deletionism at Wikipedia, I will not invest time writing a comparison, which someone will delete as "original research" or something like that. The best method to get the information is probably to google for comparisons (in Chinese and English) and then to use whatever one can find as references to update this article (hoping that no one deletes it as being too close to the original and therefore "plagiarism").

My personal opinion is that wubi is far more logical and efficient than cangjie, something that can also be seen in the bookshops in the Mainland and Taiwan. There are tons of books about wubi in the mainland, but very few about Cangjie in Taiwan. However, that is a very personal opinion, and I'm sure there are people who will praise cangjie much higher than wubi. Mlewan (talk) 13:25, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. Wrt deletionism, I've found that what you've done is the right thing to do, namely put the content which might be under attack in the back matter in a summary fashion which is more or less impervious to it. As for the matter of selecting an input method, my very superficial take is that I might prefer Cangjie on the basis of it having some conceptual framework that assists in learning characters. Reiterating it's superficiality, a first gloss seems to indicate Wubi has more of a presumption that one already knows the Hanzi. In the end though I suppose I would choose Wubi if it was easier to use on Unix. 72.228.150.44 (talk) 14:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I thought one rarely had the choice. I only used cangjie for traditional Chinese and only wubi for simplified Chinese. I know that both systems have variants that pretend to cover the other set of characters, but I thought the only stable variants were wubi with SC and cangjie with TC. Stable, not only in the sense that the input method does not crash, but in the sense that it is compatible with other implementations. If you spend time learning cangjie to input simplified characters on one system, it is very possible that the implementation is very different on another system. Or have things changed there? Mlewan (talk) 15:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah, yes. Up until this time I had ignored the TC/SC issue since I had a fuzzy conception that there were too few characters for it to matter and that I didn't need to make a decision. But if it impacts the first couple of thousand characters (by frequency) heavily then obviously that's wrong. Also the soft failure of an input method on one or the other is the kind of info I was looking for. I still don't have any input method working on Linux so can't report in answer to your question at this time. 72.228.150.44 (talk) 19:58, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

You definitely have to make up your mind if you write TC or SC. Depending on the context, you may of course have to type both, but if you study in the Mainland you will only ever have to type SC and in Taiwan only TC. Most Chinese are able to read both, but they typically read their "own" variant better than the other, and they usually write only their own one. Mlewan (talk) 06:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Where to download Wubi software?

Why hasn't anyone put in this wiki page download links for Wubi software? Without the software I can't use it! Tooironic (talk) 07:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

• Last time I checked, there was no free wubi to download - at least not for Windows XP. You get it for free with Mac OS X, if you have a Mac. I think there also are ways of getting it for Windows, if you buy some special Asian language packs, but I am not up to date there. Mlewan (talk) 07:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

• • Actually, there are at least some free (3rd party) wubi methods. Microsoft might have some Wubi support, but you would need a language pack (For Windows 7, this requires either that you buy Windows in China or get Ultimate.). In terms of third party apps, if you look around you will find something. I believe this should work (works on Windows 7 with x86, should work on Vista and XP as well, but you'll either need to know 中文 already or use google translate with the page) : http://www.wnwb.com/ However, I have yet to find wubi that works with my Linux distro (since there are so many references to the Ubuntu wubi)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.36.51 (talk) 21:53, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

• • Linux users can install SCIM (http://www.scim-im.org/), which is typically included with your standard Linux distribution, and activate Wubi from the SCIM setup menu. I've just learned that, contrary to PinYin, it is necessary to switch off "show the longer phrases first" in the "Generic Table" menu. Unfortunately, not all applications support using SCIM, but other than that, it mostly "just works".

79.228.155.164 (talk) 00:55, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

• • For Linux, any of Fcitx, Ibus or Scim, plus the relevant modules, will do. You only have to install the relevant table module packages, too. Eg. 'apt-get install fcitx-table-wbpy' will give you the WubiPinyin method, and if you install fcitx-table-scj6, you get the latest CangJie. You can have them all co-installed, too.

188.29.164.99 (talk) 11:07, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Image of Keyboard is Misleading

The keyboard layout in the main image is from Wubi 98 which is barely used. The common key layout is that of Wubi 86 and has subtle but important differences. The image is pretty for sure and we might as well keep it but there should be an explanation at least that this isn't the "normal" Wubi layout, just an example of a Wubi layout. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neurosport (talk • contribs) 13:11, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I have just found an image of the Wubi 86 layout here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1082068

79.228.155.164 (talk) 01:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Add scim to the main page, or even replace the reference to xcin with it?

I'm not familiar with other input methods than scim's, but am certainly under the impression that xcin and friends only predate scim by several years. But scim has been the default in Ubuntu for at least five years, but doesn't get a reference on the main page, whereas xcin does. The major advantage of scim over about all other input methods that I'm aware of is that you have a one-stop-shop for all languages you might want to use, sparing you the need to have competing input methods. On the other hand, the specialized methods may be more powerful/mature/easier to use/more popular in their regions of high interest - I simply don't know. It would be nice if someone could look into this and adjust the page accordingly. 79.228.190.178 (talk) 17:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Nowadays most move over from scim to ibus or fcitx. --84.192.109.230 (talk) 17:11, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

五笔字型的字根键盘分布(Disambiguation strokes)

Strokes of keyboard is divided into 5 zones

Zones	Letter
1	GFDSA
2	HJKLM
3	TREWQ
4	YUIOP
5	NBVCX

Zones	Stroke	Shape
1	一	Left-Right(Horizontal)
2	丨	Top-Bottom(Vertical)
3	丿	Falling left
4	丶	Falling right
5	乙	Hook

Number	Letter	First stroke	Second stroke	Examples
11	G	一	一	王
12	F	一	丨	土
13	D	一	丿	大
14	S	一	丶
15	A	一	乙	七
21	H	丨	一	上
22	J	丨	丨	竖
23	K	丨	丿
24	L	丨	丶
25	M	丨	乙	贝
31	T	丿	一	禾
32	R	丿	丨	白
33	E	丿	丿	舟
34	W	丿	丶	人
35	Q	丿	乙	儿
41	Y	丶	一	文
42	U	丶	丨
43	I	丶	丿
44	O	丶	丶	火
45	P	丶	乙	之
51	N	乙	一	已
52	B	乙	丨	了
53	V	乙	丿	女
54	C	乙	丶	又
55	X	乙	乙	弓

stroke order exceptions

I'd like to find or create a dabase of characters which show exceptions to the stroke order to be expected according to the standard guidelines? 现代汉语通用字笔顺规范. I haven't found any academic article on the issue yet.

Eventually, the characters that do not follow the standard guidelines should be arranged into groups according to the "type of irregularity", which would be very useful both for lexicographic and learning purposes. --Backinstadiums (talk) 11:24, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Contradiction: at most 4 keystrokes

Intro: "every character can be written with at most 4 keystrokes"

How it works: "the vast majority of characters are uniquely defined by the 4 keystrokes discussed above"

Which is it? I've provisionally changed the former. Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 13:23, 25 August 2020 (UTC)