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On 13 June 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Mamma Mia! to Mamma Mia! (musical). The result of the discussion was moved.

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2003-2006

Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell

"A common misconception is that the plot is adapted from the 1968 film Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell starring Gina Lollobrigida. (In that film the mother is a former prostitute who told all three men that they were the father to secure payment for her child's upkeep. This differs vastly from the Mamma Mia story. Donna is not based on a prostitute and the writers deny any knowledge of the 1968 film, any similarity is coincidental.)"

Who wrote this statement? A writer of the musical? Where is the proof, the citations that this musical wasn't adapted from Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell?

I just watched the movie and didn't see any mention of Mrs. Campbell's being a prostitute, either implicitly or explicitly.

I also noticed that there have been a lot of edits back and forth on this either being an adaptation or coincidental on the page history.

However, there should be a mention of the similarities between the two plots.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.193.188 (talk) 17:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where's the proof that it WAS adapted from "Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell"? Unless a reputable source has mentioned the similarities, any speculation is original research and not fit for a Wikipedia article. Sailorknightwing (talk) 15:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Korean Production Quietly Closed?

I just noticed that the Korean Mamma Mia! site redirects you back to the main site. After doing some research, I think the Seongnam production closed on March 25, only about 2 months into the show's opening at that location. Can anyone verify that the Korean production is in fact closed? Ticketlink If so, why was there no mention of this on the main Mamma Mia! site? Did it close due to poor reception? The alliance 21:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Was there one at Seongnam? There were at least two productions, one at the Sejong Cultural Hall in central Seoul and one at the Charlotte Theatre in Jamsil, Seoul. --Kjoonlee 02:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Israel Production

Whoever keeps adding the Israel show under "Current Productions", please stop! Israel is part of the International Tour that is already listed under "Current Productions"! If you really must add Israel, please start another page that is dedicated solely to the International Tour. The alliance 01:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article format

Great job on the facts and references, but this article is nonstandard in format (for the correct format see Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Theatre/Article Structure). I happen to be working on another Musical Theatre show article in alpha form; the Dean Parker musical Electric Youth, co-scored by Don Hopkinson and Deborah Gibson, was inspired in part by Mamma Mia! I just happen to be slowed down by insufficient data on storyline and song order on EY. - B.C.Schmerker 06:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone format the history of productions so that it can be included in the main article? I think the history and diversity of productions worldwide is unique to the show. The alliance 22:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to rearrange some things to try to bring the article in line with the structure noted above. I created a table to list the productions, I think we can add content there that will illustrate how each production was a little different. I think that will be very interesting. -ErinHowarth (talk) 07:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Musical format

Can we rewrite the story by putting in where the songs are? Jedi Striker 02:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that we can. When I read the article structure described above I noted that is the preferred method of writing the synopsis, but I haven't tackled that task myself yet. I just saw this show myself, and I'm very excited about it. I hope to work on this page some more this week. -ErinHowarth (talk) 07:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I worked on the synopsis today, and I noticed that someone had already put the songs in. I hadn't noticed them before, so I added wikilinks to most of them. That will help them stand out a bit. I made a lot of changes to the synopsis. I think it's better now, but it's too long. If anyone would like to trim it down, I won't be offended. The musical theatre guidelines call for a synopsis of approximately 900 words. Right now, the synopsis has about 1200 words. -ErinHowarth (talk) 23:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

further productions

Hi, which productions do you want listed in this article and especially in the info-box? There is a production of Mamma Mia! in Essen and one in Berlin (both since '07), and there has been one from 2002 to 2007 in Hamburg. de:Mamma_Mia! lists 8 current productions all over the world, 2 announced ones, 15 former productions plus several tours. I guess however that there are many more as this article lists several languages the musical got translated to. But why lists the productions in the box that are listed there right now? What makes them more important than other? -- JanCK (talk) 00:42, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That´s right! Where are the other productions! In this article have to different between "Production" (musical plays for longer time in the city - often in the countries language) and "Tournee-Produktion" (musical plays for one or two weeks). :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.252.168.122 (talk) 10:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request for information

The following hidden "instructions" or request has been in the article for a while now. I removed them from the article but am preserving them here (at least for the time being) for the record. These items seem to be the standard things a good MT article should have, & probably many if not all are now included in the article. Although I note the request for cast replacement history for all productions, which is, I think, not called for per [1]. (Note these are not MY instructions.)

"This section [the Background/history section] should answer the following questions:
What is the source material for this work? What is notable about the older work or how has the musical changed its focus? How did this musical come to be written and/or produced? Whose idea was it to make this musical? Who are the cast replacements for each production in order? Who is in the replacement history for the London, Las Vegas, US Tour, Toronto, and Broadway productions?
Was this musical started in any workshops or previews? What was unusual about them? (For example, in a workshop of the precursor to Dreamgirls, Nell Carter's performance influenced how the show developed, and this should be addressed in this section.)

JeanColumbia (talk) 16:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

This is barely a c-class article. It contains far too many lists (see WP:NOT) and lacks any analytical information. I am sure that much has been written about this musical, but little is cited. What about criticial reaction? Box office info? Narrative descriptions of the productions? -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Andersson

In ther film this character was Swedish but I seem to recall he was Ausralian in the stage prodution comments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.3.201.124 (talk) 20:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His nationality adapts to the abilities of the actor, but the default for the stage is Australian. The current North American Tour's Bill plays an American. Humicroav (talk) 20:26, 20 April 2014 (UTC) <--insider[reply]

Who is depicted in ad/cd-cover

Someone on WP:RD/H asked (and I think it'd make a valuable addition here) which actress is depicted in the ad (and on the cover of Mamma Mia! Original Cast Recording). I've speculated that it's Lisa Stokke, but without concrete evidence. -- Finlay McWalter • Talk 13:11, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

move to Mamma Mia! (musical)

I think we should completely distinguish this from the movie among other things.--Levineps (talk) 06:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 13 June 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 20:59, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mamma Mia! → Mamma Mia! (musical) – Derived from Mamma Mia (ABBA song) and filled with other ABBA songs. Also, according to stats, the musical is less viewed than the film counterpart in last 90 days. Numbers may drop when moved. Meanwhile, the current title must redirect to the "Mamma Mia" dabpage. George Ho (talk) 20:26, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again gets 77,917 views and the film gets 70,740 compared with only 20,727[[2]] for this one. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:48, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support - disambiguating all seems prudent to avoid bad internal links. -- Netoholic @ 17:39, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Too many titles listing Mamma Mia or Mamma Mia! to know which one a searcher is looking for. Mamma Mia! should redirect to disambiguation page Mamma Mia, and this article should be retitled Mamma Mia! (musical). This would help searchers find the right article first time instead of hunting and pecking. Mburrell (talk) 20:12, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Public Opinion

This musical received huge public acclaim. I’ve been an ABBA fan since I was a kid. I saw it as a gift from my wife on my 40th birthday. I hated it. 2600:4040:9522:600:618A:82F:CCB3:F10F (talk) 13:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Technical and Professional Writing

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 August 2024 and 5 December 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Lillycharles (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Lillycharles.

— Assignment last updated by Howdy m25 (talk) 01:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New editor introduction

Hi, I noticed that this article could benefit and be more informative if the article focuses on factual information. I plan to edit this article over the next couple of weeks. I plan to edit this article by removing personal reflection presented in the "thematic analysis section" because it is not facts but instead a personal reflection. Lillycharles (talk) 00:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]