Talk:Shimla

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Moving

I have moved the following content from Category:Cities and towns in India. Perhaps it can be merged into the article. - Mike Rosoft 13:13, 29 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shimla

Shimla, the summer capital of the erstwhile British Raj in India, is nestled in the middle Himalyas, in northern India. The city has had a chequered past during the British Raj, and is now the capital of Himachal Pradesh, which is considered to be one of the most progressive states of India. Shimla is dotted with monuments, mainly imposing buildings dating back to the Victorian age, which are often considered as the hallmark of British rule in India. The Kalka-Shimla rail link, one of the few narrow gauge tracks still operational in India, bears testimoney to the indomitable spirit and engineering excellence of the British. Shimla (previously known as Simla) is also home to Bishop Cotton School, the oldest public school in Asia. Originally established to educate the children of British Army officers, the 170 year old institution has a strong network of old students across the globe. The school has contributed a number of professional in every sphere of public life — people have reached the pinnacle of their careers, and in the process have made significant contribution to society. However,General Dyer, the British officer who perpetrated the Jallianwalabagh massacre, remains the most (in)famous personality who has passed through the portals of this esteemed institution.

--203.145.128.6 21:57, 28 May 2005 (UTC)Raj Machhan 3:19AM IST[reply]

Section

I think a re-arrangement of sections of the article and repositioning of pictures at appropriate places would enhance the appearance of the article. Further edits may be added as required. Further, such arrangements on the lines of Featured articles like Goa will be still better. I will try to proceed on these lines - Ok. --Bhadani 9 July 2005 14:05 (UTC)

Heart of the City

I have removed the following statement from the section Heart of the City: "When you are there, do not miss a coffee at the Park Cafe. It is listed on the international tourist guides. The food here is just as great as the music". This statement though true, does not seem appropriate for an encyclopedia.

Sports

Shark diving? In the Himalayan foothills? This statement needs explanation/references or it has to go. Colonies Chris 08:59, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

removed as dubious

The shimla roller skating rink is also an all year round popular place . added by an anon.Mikereichold 08:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External links

Adding some external links here for future reference. Will add them to mainpage if they actually contain some good info Lost 06:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For culture section

Places of interest

I have moved some of the descriptions and am going to put it in detail in the child pages. These pages already exist so there is no reason to put paragraphs in the main article. Makes it less cluttered and to the point. In addition, there are several more that either need to be added here or created anew. Will keep doing so in the next few days. Please discuss if you have a better format to present this section. gnusbiz 01:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

rewrite

In an endeavour to make this article more along the lines of featured articles on Wikipedia I am going to change the layout. This may include:

Removing places of interest and creating a separate article, say, tourism in Shimla, with all of the material in child pages and detailed descriptions (this may require deletion of child pages like, Mall road, Shimla etc. I don't feel that that should be a separate page for each of those on an encyclopedia. Any thoughts??)

No need to delete child pages. This article is just a summary article. More detailed info can be put into child pages. Mall Road, Shimla has a historical significance of its own and thus deserves a separate article — Lost^(talk) 01:45, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Getting more stuff (supported with sources) on Culture, Economy, and Demographics. You can help here!!

I can help with these things to an extent — Lost^(talk) 01:45, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re-laying and replacing pictures. I may be able to get some better pictures, but that is last priority
Some other sections like politics, market places, either need to be merged or removed.

Needless to say, if anyone can edit the article as per the suggestions above, that would be great. Please discuss here if you have any more ideas. gnusbiz 18:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and also have a look at other similar featured articles such as Delhi, Mumbai, Kochi etc. Just follow a similar format. All the best for your effort to make it featured. — Lost^(talk) 01:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great! I'll try to work on the main article then during the next week or so. It'll be nice if you can throw in some links/add missing citations. I should ask you to review some heavy changes as well. Thanks! --- gnusbiz 07:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

review

At this point, a peer review, perhaps, would reveal what else is required/can be improved on this page. Gnusbiz 20:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

references

I am adding these references here for future use. In case anyone wishes to contribute, most of these books should be available in local libraries. gnusbiz 15:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pubby, Vipin (1988), Simla Then & Now, Indus Pub. Co., ISBN 8185182116

Barr, Pat; Desmond, Ray (1978), Simla: A Hill Station in British India, Scribner, ISBN 0684158256

Kanwar, Pamela (2003), Imperial Simla: The Political Culture of the Raj, Oxford University Press, ISBN 0195667212

Bhasin, Raja (1995), Simla: The Summer Capital of British India, Penguin, ISBN 0140230416

Places of Interest

I have added a new section : Places of Interest as there was nothing, i have also added some pictures along with it.
Rohan 09:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if that's a good idea. See [1] for recommended sections by the Indian cities project. Places of interest, if they are very popular, could go into their own respective articles, or in Wikitravel. gnusbiz (talk) 01:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited the Places of Interest section to remove much of the advertising and guidebook aspects, as per the advice given above. Please do not replace unencyclopaedic material: WP is not Lonely Planet and only a mention of those places bearing their own pages or internal references should be placed here. Plutonium27 (talk) 13:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

kufri,ihm

Institute Of Hotel Management Kfri is of national importance (Ministry of Tourism,Govt Of India)under the control of National Council Of Hotel Management And Catering Technology,New Delhi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.88.196.213 (talk) 07:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why the change from Simla to Shimla? And when?

Couldn't the article explain this point? APW (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Outside of India, it's always been Simla. It's a famous place.

99.238.74.216 (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

North Indian Languages such as Hindi often Aspirate Consonents, which English written in Roman Characters, does not do unless an "h" is deliberately added. Thus the word for snow is "Shima" and so Shimalaya is "place of snow" and has come into English as Himalaya and Shimla is a shorter form, and came into English as Simla. ---- the Reverend Peter M. Hawkins. peterhawkins@sfr.fr — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.120.172.30 (talk • contribs) 15:43, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The name officially changed from Simla to Shimla in 1974. Supposedly to match the spelling with the pronunciation. In 2018 there was a proposal to change it yet again - to Shimalaya. Cassandra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.167.231 (talk) 11:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Christ Church, Shimla or St Michael's Catholic Church, Shimla

Why are the pictures of the stained glass windows in Christ Church, Shimla, and the exterior of Christ Church, Shimla identified as St Michael's Catholic Church, Shimla? Similarly, the article on Christ Church, Shimla was altered in 2011 to remove references to Christ Church, Shimla and replace the longer description there with one sentence referring to St Michael's Catholic church, Shimla. If, indeed, Christ Church is now St Michael's Catholic church, that information needs to be sourced, and an appropriate explanation given in the text about the historic parish of Christ Church, Shimla. Vancouveriensis (talk) 20:28, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Nomination?

I think this article is good enough to be nominated as a GA. Anyone want to start the nomination process? (as I'm still a greenhorn at it) Fireblazex3 (talk) 14:32, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is the elevation range correct?

Summary says "The elevation of the city ranges from 300 to 6000 metres" ... doesn't seem right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.82.253.89 (talk) 14:46, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hindi शिमला

That Hindi is pronounced shi-ma-lā, in theory.
Losing the 'a' from the middle syllable should require the conjunct of मल.
So, is the pronunciation correct? Is the 'a' not pronounced at all? Pronounced very lightly?
99.238.74.216 (talk) 15:13, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hindi is shim-lā, and the vernacular (Pahadi) is sheem-lā. Sanjaysaigal (talk) 01:59, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tourism in Himachal Pradesh

Hello, those editors who are active on WikiPoject Himachal Pradesh kindly improve the newly created article Tourism in Himachal Pradesh. All states of India was having separate tourism article but Himachal Pradesh was missing it. So I just created this article. Please help to improve this article, you can take help of official website of Tourism of HP. Also you can see article Tourism in North East India regarding structure of article. Thank you very much. --Human3015 (talk) 15:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Shimla/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Cannot exceed B rating as WP:GA criteria has not been met. Alan.ca 06:51, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 06:51, 27 October 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 05:59, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

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Sister Cities

1. The sister city mentioned has not been known to anyone. We have checked that with the DC office as well 2. The link mentioned for the reference is not functional either. Abhisheklakhanpal23 (talk) 11:05, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

An average should be a single number

“The average temperature during summer is between 19 and 28 °C (66 and 82 °F),” This is a range, not the average. It should be edited to say whatever is really meant here. GeneCallahan (talk) 00:30, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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NPOV issue.

@Arjayay, I did not said that that you meant it was unsourced or something. I removed the terms "goddess" because is does satisfy WP:WIKIVOICE. We already introduced to readers that in "History" section that Kali in a goddess in hinduism. So in other places in this article, we remove the terms such as goddess or other religious terms. 182.183.45.116 (talk) 21:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The "Etymology" section comes before the "History" section, so we have not "already (my bold) introduced to readers that in "History" section that Kali in a goddess in hinduism". It should be explained at its first mention, not require readers to read further on to understand a section they have already read. - Arjayay (talk) 21:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]