User talk:Jphofmann

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Sam Spade 17:41, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia by creating the page Pit beef sandwich. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. (aeropagitica) 16:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the topic of pit beef sandwiches

I feel you were a bit swift to delete my Pit beef sandwich entry. I agree the page I created was light on content, but the subject matter is legitimate. I took the time to correctly categorize and stub the node, and I gave a brief description of the pit beef sandwich. Perfect, no, but I was planning to come back to it, and others should be given chance to improve what I started, as is the spirit of wikipedia. I created the node as a signed in user, that has made "few" but legitimate changes in the past. If I have done something wrong that I am not seeing will you please let me know? jphofmann 16:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, new comments on my Talk page are placed at the bottom rather than the top in order to maintain the chronological order. Secondly, reading Sandwich you will see that sandwich types are discussed but that articles on sandwich fillings are not. This would result in a large collection of non-notable articles, as sandwiches can be filled with almost anything - this does not make them notable. Likewise a list of sandwich fillings would be equally non-notable and difficult to navigate around. Categorising and stubbing an article doesn't mean that it is inherently notable or encyclopedic in scope, tone and content. Your edit summary of "sources and more to come, i am eating pit beef for lunch today to get material!" hardly inspires confidence that the article was notable. (aeropagitica) 16:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time for a good response. Sorry about the order thing. I feel the Baltimore Pit beef sandwich in the order of the Philadelphia Cheese steak. It is a "regional delicacy" so to speak, not merely a sandwich filling, but I can certainly understand your confusion. If I choose to make a pit beef sandwich entry again I will try to make that clear. [1] describes the idea of what I am trying to contain in a wiki entry. Thanks again for your help. jphofmann 16:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! I see that you refer to the Philly cheesesteak in your response. You are right that this is a regional variation but it isn't an individual sandwich in it's own right, it is a variation of a sandwich type, the cheesesteak and as such it is a notable local cuisine item. The difference as I see it is that your description was of an individual sandwich rather than a variant of a sandwich type. If yours is a type of sandwich then perhaps it could be added to the appropriate article? Or you could research the variations on that type of sandwich and collate them together in the style of the Cheesesteak article, with references and citations, etc. Finally, try forming the article in a sandbox user sub-page to avoid speedy deletions as happened today. This will allow you to develop in peace and you can request that other editors review your material before you move it in to the main article space. Regards and Happy Easter! (aeropagitica) 16:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]