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Thetis and Themis

" The etymology of her name (from tithemi, "to set up, establish") " This is widely quoted but in a circular fashion. Perhaps someone would be kind enough to provide a proper authority? (I've searched L&S, Yonge, Chantraine etc without success). Parzivalamfortas 23:13, 20 January 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parzivalamfortas (talk • contribs)

"The etymology of her name (from tithemi, "to set up, establish") suggests an early political role. Her aquatic functions suggest syncretism with powerful Near Eastern sea-goddesses like Tiamat." --isn't this about Themis? Wetman 21:03, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The etymology part can apply to both. I'm not aware of any aquatic functions attributed to Themis, though. Bacchiad 21:47, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thetis conflated with Themis

"According to a minority of sources, Thetis received control of the Oracle at Delphi from Gaia and eventually passed control of the oracle to Phoebe." Moved here. Is there any connection of Thetis with Delphi, other than that she recommended that Neoptolemos be buried there? Aren't the "minority of sources" making the very confusion warned against at the head of the article? Or what am I missing? --Wetman 09:10, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A misleading unsourced conjecture

At the risk of seeming severe, I've moved the following here:

Given that she is the mother of Achilles, the Greek youth par excellence, it may be that Thetis once presided over the all-important realm of aristocratic adolescence.

Achilles is a hero, not simply the epitome of an aristocratic adolescent. This statement, if it were sound, would be a conclusion drawn from some rite of aristocratic passage to manhood somewhere, which would include Thetis. On the contrary, no female presided over adolescence in Hellenic culture anywhere, as Athena presided over female adolescence at the Brauronia. Any sourced cult of Thetis would make a most interesting addition to the article, needless to say. --Wetman 22:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Questions

1. "Pseudo-Apollodorus' Bibliotheke asserts that Thetis was courted by both Zeus and Poseidon, but she was married off to the mortal Peleus because of their fears about the prophecy by Themis [9] (or Prometheus, or Calchas, according to others)"

Who are the "others"?

2. "At the wedding Chiron gave Peleus an ashen spear that had been polished by Athene"

Should it be Athena?

3. "In a variant of the myth, Thetis tried to make Achilles invulnerable by dipping him in the waters of the Styx"

Who is the source of this variant?

4. "Accseniorssenians"? Is it vandalism?

ICE77 (talk) 06:22, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Athenē is a transliteration alternative to Athena; an article should choose between the two. An argument could be made for Athena as overwhelmingly most common, unless it's important to emphasize that you're giving a particular transliteration of the Greek in contrast to the Anglicized form. Cynwolfe (talk) 14:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly: very good point. Thanks for the explanation.

ICE77 (talk) 16:04, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

@ICE77: Re 4.), yes it was vandalism see this edit, but now — finally — fixed by this. Paul August ☎ 19:13, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I am editing this article. I will be mainly focusing on Thetis' influence and actions during the Trojan War. This is part of a project for a class.

Rwetsman (talk) 16:53, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

I’ve added the alternate pronunciation (ThETis) to the lead as a) that’s what the OED leads with, and b) it is closer to the original Greek pronunciation (the epsilon is sounded as the "e" in bed, not bead) Moonraker12 (talk) 14:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]