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August 25, 2005Peer reviewReviewed
September 29, 2005Featured article candidateNot promoted
November 18, 2005Featured article candidatePromoted
July 11, 2007Featured article reviewDemoted
Current status: Former featured article

The Long Tomorrow?

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I think it might be worth mentioning the 1975 comic The Long Tomorrow by Dan O'Bannon and Moebius. The comic has been listed as a source of inspiration for both William Gibson and Ridley Scott. Given that it covers most of the usual tropes and was notably early and influential, I think there's a chance this should be included.

American white Guild clutters the article

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Many sections in the article reference some weird race and imagined-cultural appropriation shit, that can upset reader not trapped in US identity politics and Neo-Marxism. Please delete this as it makes the article unnecessarily stressful and US-view centric biased, keeping in mind that no one else on this planet cares about US-white guild. 2A01:598:B186:99CC:5B61:CB26:BA6E:7F3 (talk) 22:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Orientalism is a large part of the genre's history. It's not "america-centric": the section directly talks about a Japanese director taking inspiration from Hong Kong. 'Cultural appropriation' is never mentioned.
The seminal cyberpunk works took heavy inspiration from China and particularly Japan, they were a product of the period of seeming Japanese industrial technological dominance before the Lost Decade and the unique socioeconomic conditions prevelent in East Asia at the time. This doesn't make them inherently Orientalist, but it's undeniable that Blade Runner has at best one significant Asian character, but introduces its world with a massive billboard of a Japanese woman in traditional garb advertising Coke.
If I do have to levy one criticism to the section, it would be its understatement of the influence Japanese works themselves had on the cyberpunk setting/aesthetic. Ghost in the Shell is mentioned but not other major pieces like Akira, I understand the focus is on the Western protrayal of cyberpunk worlds but those worlds were not built solely from Western influences. If we wish to keep the section's focus on only Western cyberpunk then it is fine as is, maybe a reference to Ex Machina as an example of a more recent cyberpunk work that is aware of this critique of the genre and examines it as one of its core themes? 80.42.155.148 (talk) 03:46, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Please delete this as it makes the article unnecessarily stressful" – um, Wikipedia is not a safe space ... --Florian Blaschke (talk) 23:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]