Talk:Sysop

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Discussions:

Moved, 4 January 2007, from SysOp to Sysop, see discussion.
Not moved, 9 October 2012, from Sysop to System operator, see discussion.

Comments

Needs formatting etc. — Hippietrail 11:20, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Format...

I wasn't sure as to whether the wikipedia sysop section should be above or below the rest...

I believe that the majority of the people coming to this page would do so seeking info about wikipedia sysops, so should this article be formatted by relevance?

--jonasaurus 05:01, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the section about Wikipedia SysOps. Information relating to the Wikipedia should be kept in the Wikipedia: namespace unless it is notable for the general (non contributing) user of the encyclopedia. bbx 14:29, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice if there was a link to wikipedia sysops though, as in the page for the All Free Dictionaries project (AFD), which starts with For the Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion shortcut, please use WP:AFD. Smmurphy 17:28, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Move? (0)

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Should this be at Sysop rather than SysOp? I've never seen the CamelCase version before. — sjorford (talk) 13:53, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've never seen the capitalised version either and have years of experience online; I think someone was being overzealous. I have changed it throughout the article (but I don't think I can modify the article title itself without a login). 86.150.130.12 19:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it was moved from the lowercase version in May 2005, and I'd support a move back to the regular one. But just in case we're missing something, I'll list it at Requested Moves for a few days to get more input. -- nae'blis 16:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I have seen SysOp just as SysAdmin is sometimes used. Having said that I don't dispute leaving the page as Sysop. Robert Brockway (talk) 22:21, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

Do others pronounce it /ˈsɪz.ɑp/? I don't want to add it if this is just an idiosyncrasy of mine. -- Arthaey 06:38, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed move (1)

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The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED from SysOp to Sysop per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 19:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll double check that one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.48.134.112 (talk) 03:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - crz crztalk 18:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Patstuart^talk|edits 18:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support per section above. -- nae'blis 21:32, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Mention the camel-case version in the first line. -- SigPig |^{SEND - OVER} 05:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixed the following: Internet <=/=> the World Wide Web; and the word "sysop" is still prevalent in various contexts.

"Internet" PREDATES the Web by over a decade and was coterminous with the development of BBS systems, many or most of which can be considered part of or linked to the 'net before the Web took off. Terminology confusion there. Fixed.

BBS systems still exist on some level, and this article is about the general phenomenon of systems that have a sysop (self-described), so use of the word "sysop" in the past tense is non-encyclopedic. Fixed.

Use of the word "sysop" is still prevalent in various non-BBS contexts, including as a synonym for sysadmin. As evidenced by its use on this website (hardly a unique phenomenon). Just FYI.

I have corrected the first two problems in the article. I'll let someone else look up current use of the term "sysop", but it most certainly did not fall into disuse after the 1980s, as this Wikipedian can attest. --berr 216.15.63.67 (talk) 23:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move request (2)

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The result of the proposal was not moved. --BDD (talk) 18:57, 16 October 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Sysop → System operator – Expand abbreviation for more clarity. --The Evil IP address (talk) 16:20, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – "Sysop" is the common name for a person performing this role. Graham87 05:10, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Graham87.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose there is much less clarity in the proposed name, since a "system operator" indicates nothing about the system being operated, while a "sysop" has a restricted meaning. There are many systems that have operators called "system operators" which have nothing to do with "sysops". -- 70.24.247.66 (talk) 05:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Changing Gears

Maybe these individuals carry on the same name "sysop," denoting the same person. I had an experience with a sysop by the name of purple panda a long time ago on 'his' bbs. Perhaps there is something to this. You see it around, but why does the internet have this type of occupation available, you really need to see if this actually accounts for a real situation. So, it seems that way, not by my experience with the internet. So perhaps corporations hire these individuals, but it seems their occurrence is not really by the name Sysop; I hope you understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:7751:160:AD64:9A76:72DA:32B0 (talk) 03:57, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]